KAILASH MEHRA SADHU

A real song never disappoints

- (Kailash Mehra (Sadhu) in conversation with Dileep Kumar Kaul) 
Kashmir Sentinel, Jammu, October 15-31, 1994

Q: Then you had regular training?
A: In the beginning I learnt at school. Then Mr. Shambhu Nath Sopori groomed me in the Indian classical music. What I am today is because of him.

Q: You were from a Dogra family, how could you be so conversant in Kashmiri songs?
A: My forefathers lived in Kashmir. I too have lived in Kashmir since I was a little child. The language was never a problem. When I was in school, Asha Bhonsle had sung a Kashmiri song 'Lalas vantay chhu sawal'. My Guru Sopori Sahib made me learn it and also the famous Ghazal of the noted Kashmiri poet Abdul Ahad Azad i.e. ''bedard lolaki Bahana kari kari'. I sang this song on many occasions.

Q: In the early seventies you sang two songs 'Karsa myon nyay ande' and 'Mas bu gosay rat ke pyalay hano'. These proved big hits. People still remember these songs. How could you get that 'Kashmiriness' into these songs?
A: It is the Kashmiri folk element which made these songs famous--the feeling which is Kashmir and which flows through my arteries and veins.

Q: But these were solo songs. Do we have solo singing in Kashmiri folk music?
A:  Yes, primarily in Sufiana music. Many of the compositions I sang were in Sufiana music. In group singing also there are moments when every body does not know the song. So a singer sings and all others follow. In Kashmiri Pandits there were professional 'wanwun' singers who would tell the ladies what to sing and then sing with them. So there is ample scope for the solo singing.

Q: Why is the folk song so important?
A: Because the folk song is the real song, and a real song never disappoints you.

Q: What do you mean by a real song?
A:  A real song is the song of the people. At the core of any folk song, there is a call for the people, call for them to join the song. If a singer grasps the essence of this call, it is very easy to communicate with the people.

Q: Then how can we differentiate between the folk songs of different places?
A:  To live in this world we need to communicate with each other. A man has to call another man. This call varies from individual to individual, from society to society and from time to time. For example, a Kashmiri will never call you the way a Dogra does. It is the specific way of calling which makes the song of a particular place. It is the call of that place.

Q: Today when our community in exile is facing the worst times of history, what are the possibilities for our music?
A: There is tremendous pain and agony. We cannot but sing the song of pain. Like our lives, our music also needs an establishment, an identity.

Q. You mean the song of pain will give an identity to our music?
A: The song of pain is everywhere. Even our marriage songs have something of it. Our literature in exile is full of the songs of pain. The artist is the pulse of his times. He cannot escape the pain, agony, struggles and even the joys of his times. And if he does not respond, future will question him, his very being as an artist.

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